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{ehsan}
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وااااااای دارم از خوشحالی ....
نمیدونم اگر واقعیت داشته باشه ، شما میتونید از طریق Pc توی قسمت Flash Xbox 360 دستکاری کنید و بدونه Mod-chip اونا Hack کنید !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
حتی Team Xecuter هم تاییدش کرده
>> A bit more news about the Xbox 360 DVD Firmware Hack we talked about yesterday.
If you missed the news yesterday, I posted lots of info there already, check it out here so you can catch up and understand what's below.
* SeventhSon on the xboxhacker.net forums has been working on getting the Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L DVD drive working on Linux and Windows the last few weeks. Yesterday I said it was required to open your DVD drive and remove the firmware chip to read the Hitachi-LG DVD firmware and/or to get the unique 16 byte key, but on SeventhSon's page he explains how you can get this drive connected and recognized by Linux and Windows. He even programmed a few cmd-line tools (also available for windows and linux) that will allow you to dump the memory (incl. 'forbidden ranges'), firmware and unique key of the DVD drive on your PC and also tools to write (peek/poke single bytes) to the DVD memory (not firmware) and execute arbitrary MN103 code (this drives used the MN103 DVD chipset) from a PC on the drive.
Now, to flash your firmware you will still need to open your dvd drive and flash the firmware with a chip programmer (for now atleast, people are searching how to make it flashable via PC) (also note that chip is epoxied, so it's probably best to removed it to flash it), but with these tools you can already dump the firmware without chip programmer. So people out there with enough asm/assembly knowlegde that would like to take a look at the firmware themself but don't have a chip programmer can use this method.
Very technical details about his research are available on this page[kev.nu], but end-users will do just fine with this 'summary' page[kev.nu].
* Team xecuter also posted a bit about the hack:
نمیدونم اگر واقعیت داشته باشه ، شما میتونید از طریق Pc توی قسمت Flash Xbox 360 دستکاری کنید و بدونه Mod-chip اونا Hack کنید !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
حتی Team Xecuter هم تاییدش کرده
>> A bit more news about the Xbox 360 DVD Firmware Hack we talked about yesterday.
If you missed the news yesterday, I posted lots of info there already, check it out here so you can catch up and understand what's below.
* SeventhSon on the xboxhacker.net forums has been working on getting the Hitachi-LG GDR-3120L DVD drive working on Linux and Windows the last few weeks. Yesterday I said it was required to open your DVD drive and remove the firmware chip to read the Hitachi-LG DVD firmware and/or to get the unique 16 byte key, but on SeventhSon's page he explains how you can get this drive connected and recognized by Linux and Windows. He even programmed a few cmd-line tools (also available for windows and linux) that will allow you to dump the memory (incl. 'forbidden ranges'), firmware and unique key of the DVD drive on your PC and also tools to write (peek/poke single bytes) to the DVD memory (not firmware) and execute arbitrary MN103 code (this drives used the MN103 DVD chipset) from a PC on the drive.
Now, to flash your firmware you will still need to open your dvd drive and flash the firmware with a chip programmer (for now atleast, people are searching how to make it flashable via PC) (also note that chip is epoxied, so it's probably best to removed it to flash it), but with these tools you can already dump the firmware without chip programmer. So people out there with enough asm/assembly knowlegde that would like to take a look at the firmware themself but don't have a chip programmer can use this method.
Very technical details about his research are available on this page[kev.nu], but end-users will do just fine with this 'summary' page[kev.nu].
* Team xecuter also posted a bit about the hack:
آخرین ویرایش:
{ehsan}
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* Team xecuter also posted a bit about the hack:
* Xlife.nl posted an nice interview with TheSpecialist (in dutch - translated to english by me):
Well done from Xecuter(info)!
(Pretty much) all the information you need is in these threads [note x-s: keep in mind these are threads in the XBH technical forum - technical/serious posts only please].
* The Challenge Response Protocol
* Hacking DVD firmware AGAIN
* Dumping Security Sector with H-943A
* Getting XBOX drives to work in windows
From what we can tell so far is that the game image will have to be patched too - We can smell a new feature for Qwix(info) 2
The scene can expect a hack for all drives very soon (It's currently only Hitachi) - you can be assured that it will be released although I don't think modchips will be any kind of business as its a pure piracy mod - no homebrew at all.
* Xlife.nl posted an nice interview with TheSpecialist (in dutch - translated to english by me):
Xlife: Tell us a bit about yourself for the visitors of Xlife.nl (who are you?, what's your job in real-life?, age?, ...)
TheSpecialist: Usually asking the age is indiscreet, but in this case it's the only one I want to answer, hehe, I'm 30.
Xlife: How many people worked on the project?
TheSpecialist: 6 hackers were in the team. Although I think you can't say that only these 6 people made the hack: without the contributions from other people on XBH this would never have succeeded, it would have taken much more time anyway.
Xlife: How long did you actually work on this hack?
TheSpecialist: It's hard to say how many hours were put into this hack. We started last year analysing the original Xbox DVD firmware security because very few was known about it. We were expecting that the Xbox 360 security was based on this one and good knowledge into the security of the original Xbox would probably give useful insight for the protection in the Xbox 360 (and it looks like we were right). The reason we started with the original Xbox is because the kernel was easy to rip which helped us to find out when the original Xbox kernel went 'OK' with a DVD.
Xlife: Did you have contact with Microsoft about this hack?
T heSpecialist: No
الان من زنگ میزنم لوشون میدم:cheesygri
Xlife: Why did you decide not to release the hack publicly?
TheSpecialist: The Xbox 360 was announced by Microsoft as the best protected console on earth and that hackers would be surprized by the unseen high level of security. This type of statements makes most hackers excited/interested. For me personally it looked like a great challenge to find out if the security was really so good. I think this motivation applies for pretty much all hackers on XBH. To look for security bugs was thus the real goal. Distribute a hack like this has nothing do to with 'hacking' and has also never been my goal.
Xlife: Aren't you concerned/worried that you gave ideas to people and that these will duplicate your hack and release it publicly?
TheSpecialist: To start with I think the hack isn't interesting for the average end-user in it's current status, because you need specific hardware and knowlegde to flash the drive. The current hack is also easy to patch for Microsoft because a backup differs on several points from the original and Microsoft could easily check for this. A 'perfect' emulator, that reports a backup in ALL possible ways exactly the same way to the Xbox 360 as an original disc is outside our scope and this would also require a lot of work/time. There's a possibility that this would start a cat&mouse game, where Microsoft comes with new patches and hackers will hack this again, ... So this means that as long as there's no 'perfect emulator' Xbox LIVE users will always risk getting banned and if they don't want to take this risk they will still have to buy original games.
Xlife: Did you directly start hacking the DVD firmware or did you first try hacking other parts of the Xbox 360?
TheSpecialist: No, we started directly with the firmware. The DVD firmware project on XBH is totally separated from, for example, the guys at free60.org
Xlife: Is it possible to play games on Xbox LIVE with your hack?
TheSpecialist: At this moment yes, but that's till Microsoft comes with a patch.
Xlife: What's your opinion about the fact that people doubt the authenticity of the small video you released?
TheSpecialist: The proof is in the hardware details on the XBH forums, not in the video. I released the original video now [see here[rapidshare.de - 100MB high quality version of first movie and with original sound]], that will already crush the speculation of a 2nd Xbox 360 in the reflection of the TV. I also think that if you carefully watch the movements of the laser you can no longer say this is fake. If you'd put a backup in a normal Xbox 360 the laser would not move the same way (see for example the movements to the outer edge of the disc, where it reads the security placeholder data). Only with very expensive hardware and lots of work and money a video like this could be faked.
Xlife: Do you plan to try hacking other parts of the Xbox 360?
TheSpecialist: There are no plans for that at this moment.
Xlife: Is there something else you'd like to say to people reading this interview?
TheSpecialist: Like amiga release groups said in the 'old days':'A game worth playing is a game worth buying'. I don't want to sound 'moralistic', but I always agreed with this 'ideology' and I hope others do too. I also thought it was great to see The Netherlands was well represented on XBH and I hope to welcome more interested dutch people in this little world.
{ehsan}
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این قضیه ی کاملا حقیقت داشته و شکی توش نیست
گفته که بعدا یه پچ ساخته میشه که حتی بشه باهاش Xbl هم بازی کرد
البته یه چیزی را بگم این قضیه خیلی شباهت داره به Psp
ممکنه اگر Ms خبر دار بشه یا تغییر کلی توی Flash دستگاه های جدید بده
یعنی که اگر کسی الان بتونه این دستگاه را تهیه کنه از این روش میتونه استفاده کنه
یا اینکه از طریق Xbl اون را Update کنه
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البته برا و بچ XBOXHACKER تونستند یه سری کارا انجام بدند
آموزشش هم توی LINK زیر
UPDATE
Hacking the Xbox 360 DVD drive - short version
http://www.kev.nu/360/dvdshort.html
یکی از کاربراش به نام SEVENTHSON این کارا کرده
SeventhSon Member
Posts: 19
Re: Getting XBOX drives to work in windows
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2006, 10:24:32 AM »
Hey guys, love your work so far.
I accidentally stumbled on a way to use the Hitachi-LG drive in Linux/Windows without using any form of SATA swap trick.
For the past week or so I have been trying to gain a complete understanding of the situation before posting, but I will not have much time to work on it for a few weeks, so I'm posting what I have now.
I haven't been following any of the "hacking DVD firmware" spin off theads and I see that you guys have already discovered most of what I have, I imagine the only interesting thing for you guys will be the using the drive in linux/windows without a swap trick part.
http://www.kev.nu/360/dvd.html
Anyway hope it helps. If somebody could confirm that it works for drives besides mine it would be nice :-)
-Kev
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مراحلی کلی به ترتیب زیر :
Read if you are interested in any of the following:
Powering the drive from your PC
Using the drive in Linux/windows/other OS (without SATA swap trick)
Dumping (from a PC) the drive's firmware
Dumping (from a PC) the mn103 controller's internal memory
Dumping (from a PC) the drive's 16 byte encryption key
Dumping (from a PC) the 'forbidden' memory ranges 0x8002EC00-0x80037300 and 0x8003A000-0x8003A300
Writing to the drive's entire address space from a PC
Executing code on the drive from a PC
The drive's Mode Select(10) command and supported mode pages
کسی فکرش را میکرد XBOX 360 را مثل PSP بشه HACK کرد؟
گفته که بعدا یه پچ ساخته میشه که حتی بشه باهاش Xbl هم بازی کرد
البته یه چیزی را بگم این قضیه خیلی شباهت داره به Psp
ممکنه اگر Ms خبر دار بشه یا تغییر کلی توی Flash دستگاه های جدید بده
یعنی که اگر کسی الان بتونه این دستگاه را تهیه کنه از این روش میتونه استفاده کنه
یا اینکه از طریق Xbl اون را Update کنه
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البته برا و بچ XBOXHACKER تونستند یه سری کارا انجام بدند
آموزشش هم توی LINK زیر
UPDATE
Hacking the Xbox 360 DVD drive - short version
http://www.kev.nu/360/dvdshort.html
یکی از کاربراش به نام SEVENTHSON این کارا کرده
SeventhSon Member
Posts: 19
Re: Getting XBOX drives to work in windows « Reply #40 on: February 19, 2006, 10:24:32 AM »
Hey guys, love your work so far.
I accidentally stumbled on a way to use the Hitachi-LG drive in Linux/Windows without using any form of SATA swap trick.
For the past week or so I have been trying to gain a complete understanding of the situation before posting, but I will not have much time to work on it for a few weeks, so I'm posting what I have now.
I haven't been following any of the "hacking DVD firmware" spin off theads and I see that you guys have already discovered most of what I have, I imagine the only interesting thing for you guys will be the using the drive in linux/windows without a swap trick part.
http://www.kev.nu/360/dvd.html
Anyway hope it helps. If somebody could confirm that it works for drives besides mine it would be nice :-)
-Kev
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مراحلی کلی به ترتیب زیر :
Read if you are interested in any of the following:
Powering the drive from your PC
Using the drive in Linux/windows/other OS (without SATA swap trick)
Dumping (from a PC) the drive's firmware
Dumping (from a PC) the mn103 controller's internal memory
Dumping (from a PC) the drive's 16 byte encryption key
Dumping (from a PC) the 'forbidden' memory ranges 0x8002EC00-0x80037300 and 0x8003A000-0x8003A300
Writing to the drive's entire address space from a PC
Executing code on the drive from a PC
The drive's Mode Select(10) command and supported mode pages
کسی فکرش را میکرد XBOX 360 را مثل PSP بشه HACK کرد؟
آخرین ویرایش:
mohandes_register
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من چیزی ندیدم (هر چند من زیاد دنبال عکس نیستم :cheesygri )نوشته شده توسط mohandes_register:
اما یک خبر جدید:
ظاهرا Jason Rubin قراره یک بازی جدید رو جدای از شرکت Naughty Dog بسازه. ایشون در شرکت Naughty Dog به مدت 20 سال حضور داشته و حالا قصد داره که با یک تیم به تنهایی به ساخت بازی ای که همیشه علاقه داشته بسازه ، مشغول بشه. از کارهای معروف قبلی ایشون میشه Jak and Daxter و Crash Bandicoot رو نام برد. ظاهرا اسم بازی جدید ایشون Iron and the Maiden است.
CRASH
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نوشته شده توسط kinopio:
البته من هم از ساختیک بازی خبر داشتم یعنی در پی ارتباطی که از طریق ایمیل با یکی از اعضای ناتیداگ که ایرانی هم هست داشتم متوجه ساخت این بازی جدید شده بودم ولی نمیدونستم که جیسون خودش تنها اقدام به ساخته این بازی کرده .واقعا از خبرت خوبت ممنونم.
ولی منتظر یه شخصیت جدید و محبوب دیگه از ناتیداگ باشید برای کنسول های نسل بعد...
برای اینکه دارندگان کارتهای گرافیکی انویدیا بهتر بتونند این بازی رو بازی کنند فردا انویدیا یک درایور جدید برای دنلود کردن توی سایتش میگذاره که برای این بازی optimize شده. کسانی که نسخه PC رو میخواهند بازی کنند و کارتشون هم انویدیاست حتما این درایور رو دنلود کنند.نوشته شده توسط dinosaur:سلام
بالاخره بازی ای که خیلی ها در انتظارش بودند عرضه شد.Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion امروز برای PC , XBOX 360 منتشر شده و تا حالا از طرف مردم در سایت GS امتیاز های خیلی بالایی گرفته.
XBOX 360 :
33 نفر : 9.9
PC :
5 نفر : 10
موفق باشین.
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اریا جا ممنون از خبرت...
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احسان جان تبریک میگم ولی با این حساب و بدون مدچیپ و با دستکاری کردنش از طریق pc فکر میکنی قیمتش ارزون بشه؟؟؟
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احسان جان تبریک میگم ولی با این حساب و بدون مدچیپ و با دستکاری کردنش از طریق pc فکر میکنی قیمتش ارزون بشه؟؟؟
{ehsan}
Loyal Member
اولا که امین جان ممنون
دوما هم منم به شما تبریک میگم ، یه خواهش هم دارم پولت را پای سیستم فعلا نریز
اگر بشه Xbox 360 را به این راحتی Hack کرد 700 هزار تومن هم میرزه
من فکر میکنم تاثیری روی قیمتش نداشته باشه
ولی اینجا دقت کنی ما 2 تا چیز داشتیم
اول که اون تیم Specialist این کار را کرده
مثل اینکه یک مقدار از اطلاعات به Xboxhacker هم درز کرده و اونا دارند شدیدا تو کارشون پیشرفت میکنند
یعنی دیگه چیزی نمونده تا یک روش کلی بیرون بدند و رو سایت بزارند
فقط خدا کنه Ms نیاد سریه جدید دستگاه هاشا با ورژن جدید بده بیرون که دیگه بد شانسیه(البته من بعید میدونم)
دوما هم منم به شما تبریک میگم ، یه خواهش هم دارم پولت را پای سیستم فعلا نریز
اگر بشه Xbox 360 را به این راحتی Hack کرد 700 هزار تومن هم میرزه
من فکر میکنم تاثیری روی قیمتش نداشته باشه
ولی اینجا دقت کنی ما 2 تا چیز داشتیم
اول که اون تیم Specialist این کار را کرده
مثل اینکه یک مقدار از اطلاعات به Xboxhacker هم درز کرده و اونا دارند شدیدا تو کارشون پیشرفت میکنند
یعنی دیگه چیزی نمونده تا یک روش کلی بیرون بدند و رو سایت بزارند
فقط خدا کنه Ms نیاد سریه جدید دستگاه هاشا با ورژن جدید بده بیرون که دیگه بد شانسیه(البته من بعید میدونم)
Restricted Area
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خیلی خیلی عجیبه که یکی از کسانی که بازی رو انجام داده در یک فروم گفته که بازی رو با چنین سیستمی اجرا کرده:
AMD Dualcore 4800+
1GB Ram
ATi X1900 XT 512 MB
همه ویژگی های گرافیکی هم رو سقف بوده فقط AA و Bloom Lighting خاموش بوده. Resolution هم روی 1080*1920 اگر اشتباه نکنم بوده با این اوصاف و با توجه به چنین سیستم خوفی فکر میکنید بازی با چند فریم در ثانیه اجرا شده باشد؟
30_45 فریم در ثانیه گاهی اوقات هم تا 60 میرسیده. واقعا عجیبه چون با همچین سیستمی میشه از FEAR بالای 80-90 فریم گرفت تازه این که حداقلش هست! خوفترین قسمت گرافیکی بازی رو هم میگفت که Draw Distance هست که حتی میتونید از فاصله 5 مایلی نیز مثلا یک شمشیر رو روی یک میز ببینید! 60
برای اینکه دارندگان کارتهای گرافیکی انویدیا بهتر بتونند این بازی رو بازی کنند فردا انویدیا یک درایور جدید برای دنلود کردن توی سایتش میگذاره که برای این بازی optimize شده. کسانی که نسخه PC رو میخواهند بازی کنند و کارتشون هم انویدیاست حتما این درایور رو دنلود کنند.
این درایور یه ورجن جدید میشه یا فقط مخصوص بازی کردن این بازی هست؟؟؟(مسخره نکنید سوال بود دیگه)
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بچه ها فکر میکنید با این سیستم میشه اجراش کرد و به راحتی باهاش بازی کرد:
vga: ge force 5700 le
ram:512
cpu:2.4 intell full
thanks
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