Playstation 4 Pro معرفی شد!

Cloud Strife

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سونی دیشب طی گردهمایی که در نیویورک ترتیب داده بود از جزییات نسخه ارتقا یافته کنسول خود پرده برداشت.

کنسول جدید، PS4 Pro نام دارد و 10 نوامبر 2016 به قیمت 399 دلار عرضه خواهد شد.

در همایش GDC 2016 شایعاتی وجود داشت که کنسول جدید سونی (که آن زمان با نام PS4 Neo شناخته می شد) دارای 8 هسته 2.1 گیگاهرتزی، 36 GNC واحد محاسباتی 911 مگاهرتزی و مموری 8GB با توان 218 گیگابیت بر ثانیه است. همچنین قابلیت پشتیبانی از Dualshock 4های کنونی PS4 در کنار نسخه آپدیت شده آن را داراست.

معمار پلی استیشن آقای مارک سرنی توضیحاتی در خصوص جزییات PS4 Pro و توانایی آن در اجرای محتوای HDR و 4K، پردازشگر سریع‌تر آن (AMD Polaris) که توانایی اجرای بازی ها در رزولوشن 4K و 60 فریم بر ثانیه را داراست و البته 1 ترابایت هارد همراه کنسول داد. همچنین رابط کاربری PS4 Pro که دقیقا مشابه برادر بزرگ‌تر خود خواهد بود.

با این افزایش قدرت دارندگان PS4 Pro می توانند بازی های خود را در رزولوشن بالاتر (4K) و با فریم ریت بیشتر یا ثابت‌تر تجربه کنند. همچنین این کنسول قابلیت استریم ویدیوهای 4K از سرویس‌هایی نظیر Netflix و Youtube را دارد. افرادی که به تلوزیون‌های 4K دسترسی ندارند نیز می توانند از قابلیت‌های ارتقا یافته PS4 Pro استفاده کنند چون این کنسول تمامی بازی های PS4 را در رزولوشن 1080p و فریم ریت بالاتر یا ثابت‌تر اجرا می کند. سونی اعلام کرده است که تمامی PS4ها، چه مدل‌های قدیمی و چه مدل جدید، طی آپدیت Firmware جدید کنسول قابلیت پشتیبانی از HDR را بدست خواهند آورند.



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حتی اگر شما تلوزیون HDR ندارید هم نگران نباشید چون بازی‌ها هنوز هم آپگرید شده به نظر می‌رسند. مارک سرنی در این خصوص گفت که PS4 به طور خودکار بهترین رزولوشن را برای بازی شما با توجه به مدل نمایشگرتان انتخاب می‌کند و بازی را در تنظیمات مشخص شده به اجرا در می‌آورد.

بازی‌های زیادی در آینده با عرضه پچ‌های جدید روی PS4 Pro اجرا خواهد شد و نیازی به خرید دوباره بازی‌ها نیست. یکی از قابلیت‌های مهم PS4 Pro این است که تمام بازی‌ها، چه بازی‌هایی که تا الان ریلیز شده و چه بازی‌هایی که در آینده ریلیز خواهد شد، بر روی هر دو کنسول قابل اجرا است. به عنوان مثال شما می‌توانید یک نسخه Battlefield 1 خریداری کنید و مطمئن باشید که هم روی PS4 و هم PS4 Pro اجرا می‌شود، حتی اگر بعدا قصد ارتقا به کنسول جدید را داشته باشید. این موضوع در مورد بخش چند نفره هم صدق می‌کند. سونی لیستی از عناوین PS4 که در آینده و در زمان عرضه PS4 Pro با این کنسول جدید همگام سازی شده منتشر کرد که به شرح زیر است:

  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider
  • Watch Dogs 2
  • Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
  • Killing Floor 2
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 (with day one patch)
  • FIFA 17
  • Battlefield 1
  • Dishonored 2
  • Mass Effect Andromeda
  • For Honor
  • Spider-Man
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
تمامی این عناوین در زمان عرضه کنسول، قابل اجرا هستند و نیاز به پچ ندارند.

هرچند پشتیبانی از رزولوشن 4K تنها به بازی‌ها و استریم خلاصه می‌شود؛ سونی اعلام کرده است که درایو بلوری PS4 Pro، قابلیت اجرای فیلم‌های 4K روی دیسک بلوری را ندارد. به نظر می‌رسد این قابلیت در بین کنسول‌ها در انحصار مایکروسافت و Xbox One S خواهد بود.

جزییات سخت افزاری Playstaion 4 Pro به شرح زیر است:

  • Product code – CUH-7000 series
  • Manufacturer’s suggested retail price – JP44,980yen, US $399, EU €399, and £349
  • Main processor – Single-chip custom processor
  • CPU: x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores
  • GPU: 4.20 TFLOPS, AMD Radeon™ based graphics engine
  • Memory – GDDR5 8GB
  • Storage size – 1TB
  • External dimensions – Approx. 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length) (excludes largest projection)
  • Mass – Approx. 3.3 kg
  • BD/ DVD drive – (read only) – BD × 6 CAV, DVD × 8 CAV
  • Input/ Output – Super-Speed USB (USB 3.1 Gen.1) port × 3; AUX port × 1
  • Networking – Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)×1; IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac; Bluetooth® 4.0 (LE)
  • Power – AC 100V, 50/60Hz
  • Power consumption – Max. 310W
  • Operating temperature – 5ºC – 35ºC
  • AV output – HDMI™ out port (supports 4K/HDR); DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) port


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همانطور که می‌بینید، کنسول از نظر ظاهری تنها یک لایه به آن اضافه شده وگرنه در مجموع حالت قبل را دارد. به اضافه اینکه یک پورت USB دیگر در کنار به آن اضافه شده است که افرادی که بعدا قصد خرید Playstaion VR را دارند با کمبود پورت مواجه نشوند.

مطمئنا تا زمان عرضه کنسول، جزییات بیشتری نیز از جدیدترین عضو خانواده سونی منتشر خواهد شد. با ما همراه باشید.

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PS4 Pro's outdated hardware could bottleneck performance

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تو هر چیزی که تو این دنیا فکر کنی یه سری های همیشه ساز مخالف کوک میکنن..شما یه خورده دیگه می گشتی سایت هایی رو پیدا می کردی که از سخت افزار تاریخ گذشته Scorpio هم مطلب گذاشتن...زیاد سخت نگیر شما.
 

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PS4 Pro's outdated hardware could bottleneck performance

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همیشه کلی بحث درمورد خوب بودن یا بد بودن هر چیزی به وجود میاد! ولی واقعیت اینه که با توجه به این که اکثر کاربرا تلوزیون 4K ندارن و 1080p بازی می کنن این کنسول می تونه با قیمت 400 دلاری اکثر بازی هارو 1080p و 60 فریم اجرا کنه که واقعا عالی هست! دیگه خیلی نباید به تاریخ گذشته بودن یا نبودنش کاری داشته باشیم!
 
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سونی اینجا بیشتر سوالات عمومی که کاربرا ممکنه درباره Pro و تفاوتش با PS4 معمولی تو ذهنشون باشه رو پاسخ داده.متن کاملشو توی اسپیلر میزارم کسی خواست مطالعه کنه:

Q: What is PS4 Pro?
PS4 Pro is a high-end version of PS4 that is capable of outputting 4K graphics, HDR support, smoother and more stable framerates, and 4K video streaming. Upon its launch, PS4 Pro will make supported PS4 games look better and run more smoothly, while giving developers an upgraded toolset to create even richer, more detailed game worlds. How these powerful new tools are used is up to individual developers and the experience they are creating. You may have seen some of these examples during PlayStation Meeting 2016.

It’s important to note that PS4 Pro is not another generation of console. It won’t make your current PS4 games obsolete, and it won’t split the PS4 player base. PS4 Pro is very much a part of the PS4 family.



Q: When will PS4 Pro be available, where, and for how much?
PS4 Pro will launch in the US and Canada on November 10 for a suggested retail price of $399.99 USD ($499.99 CAD).

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son First Light, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

Q: Will all PS4 games be compatible with PS4 Pro?
Yes, all existing PS4 games are fully compatible with PS4 Pro. Developers are able to add PS4 Pro enhancements to previously released PS4 games via a downloadable update if they choose to.

Q: Will I need to pay to update my existing PS4 game with new PS4 Pro features?

A: While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time. Software updates enabling PS4 Pro features on any existing first-party title (such as inFamous First Light or Uncharted 4) will be free.



Q: Will SIE continue to sell and support the standard PS4?
Yes. PS4 Pro is an evolution of the PS4 generation platform, which will continue to include the standard PS4 system. PS4 Pro was designed for gamers who want to be at the forefront of gaming innovation. Whether you decide to purchase the new system or continue playing on the standard PS4 system, you’ll enjoy the same games that make PlayStation the best place to play.

Q: Will PS4 Pro require a 4K TV?
No. PS4 Pro can display much higher resolutions than the standard PS4 when using a 4K TV. But if you own an HDTV (720p, 1080i, 1080p), PS4 Pro can still improve your gaming experience.

Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.



Additionally, PS4 games that render below native 1080p (maximum quality for HD TVs) on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV.

See below for a chart detailing how PS4 Pro will display based on different TV types.


4K content 2K or less than 1080p content
2K TV Optimized to 1080p If less than 1080p,
upscale to 1080p
4K TV If 4K (2160p), display as is Upscale to 4K (2160p)
4K/HDR TV If 4K (2160p), display as is
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR Upscale to 4K (2160p)
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR
Q: What resolutions does PS4 Pro support?
On 4K TVs, games are capable of running at up to 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels, also known as “2160p”) resolution. On HDTVs, games will run at 1080p.

Q: Will PS4 Pro be compatible with my existing PS4 downloaded games, saved data, and PlayStation Network Friend lists?
Yes. PS4 Pro exists in the same digital ecosystem as the standard PS4 in all regards; two PS4 console systems, one PlayStation Network, one PS4 community. This means you can start playing a game on your PS4 Pro, upload the saved data to online storage using PS Plus (sold separately), and pick up your progress on a standard PS4 in another room. It also means that all content and saved data that you already own on PS4 are fully compatible with PS4 Pro on day one.



Q: What if I already own a standard PS4? Is there an easy way to transfer my games, saved data, and Share captured content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro?
Yes. You will be able to copy your games, saved data, captured videos and screenshots, system settings, and other content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro using a standard Ethernet cable. This process will also work from standard PS4 to standard PS4, PS4 Pro to standard PS4, and PS4 Pro to PS4 Pro provided that both units have system software update 4.00 or higher installed, and the same PSN account is signed into both systems.

Alternatively, you can log-into PSN with your PS4 Pro, access your games and content library, and re-download your previously purchased games and content. Of course, your saved data in online storage will transfer as well.

Q: Will the PS4 Pro system introduce any improvements to DUALSHOCK 4?
The latest version of DUALSHOCK 4 will be included with PS4 Pro, as well as the new slimmer standard PS4. But it does not introduce any significant new functionality. The new DUALSHOCK 4 allows the light from the light bar to emit on the touch pad, making a new luminous line that illuminates in the same color as that of the light bar. It also supports USB communication in addition to Bluetooth communication. Existing DUALSHOCK 4 controllers going back to the launch of PS4 are fully supported on PS4 Pro; the updated DUALSHOCK 4 will, in turn, be fully supported by every PS4 model.



PS4 Pro: Technical Specifications
Q: How does PS4 Pro compare to the standard PS4?
PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than the standard PS4 model. PS4 Pro’s advanced graphics processor unit incorporates many features from AMD’s latest “Polaris” architecture, as well as some fully custom hardware innovations, and is considerably more powerful than the GPU included in the standard PS4.

All in all, this increase in processing power enables developers to tap into far more demanding visual features for PS4 Pro owners, including smoother or more stable framerates, support for 4K rendering, advanced graphics features, and more.

Q: What video output settings does PS4 Pro support?
At launch, PS4 Pro supports all of the HD video output settings found on the standard PS4. Notably, PS4 Pro introduces 4K output, with settings for both 2160p YUV420 and 2160p RGB (recommended if your TV supports it) at up to 60 frames per second when using a supported 4K TV and Premium HDMI (aka HDMI 2.0) cable.



Q: Does PS4 Pro support High Dynamic Range (HDR)?
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.

Q: What is HDR?
High Dynamic Range, or HDR, is an emerging display standard that allows for massively increased color depth and greater contrast compared to Standard Dynamic Range, the decades-old specification currently employed by traditional HDTVs. In general, HDR-enabled content played on an HDR-compatible TV produces a noticeably fuller, richer image, that’s closer to what the eye naturally sees. That means much deeper black levels that retain finer details; brighter, more dazzling highlights; and a much wider color spectrum than is possible on older HDTV technology.

It’s actually impossible to demonstrate the true benefits of HDR technology here because you need an HDR-enabled screen and content to experience it. You can, however, watch this video from Sony that shows some simulated before-and-after scenes.

Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.



Q: Does PS4 Pro require any specialized equipment?
Only if you want to experience 4K and HDR. Otherwise, no. Like the standard PS4, PS4 Pro fully supports existing HD TVs (720p / 1080i / 1080p). PS4 Pro can also output a 4K signal on supported 4K TVs when using a Premium HDMI cable (one will be included with PS4 Pro). To enjoy HDR features, you’ll need an HDTV that’s compatible with the HDR10 format, and HDR10-enabled games or content.

Q: Outside of higher gaming performance, 4K TV features, and support for 4K video streaming, are there any other benefits to PS4 Pro?
Yes. PS4 Pro will come standard with a 1TB HDD, faster Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac), and a third USB 3.1 Gen.1 port on the rear of the unit. PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can also benefit PlayStation VR games, enhance streaming features such as Share Play and Remote Play, and enable higher resolution output for media captured using the Share button.

In most other ways, PS4 Pro will be very similar to the standard PS4. This includes the user interface and functionality.

Q: Why do I need a Premium HDMI cable for using PS4 Pro on my 4K TV?
For maximum quality, you’ll need a PS4 Pro system, a 4K TV with a Premium HDMI input port (often marked in blue), and a Premium HDMI cable. A Premium HDMI cable is included with PS4 Pro, but those who need to purchase a longer cable should remember to get one that meets the Premium HDMI spec.

The newer Premium HDMI format can display a 4K signal at up to 60 frames per second (60Hz). Older High Speed HDMI cables (aka HDMI 1.4) can technically display a 4K signal on a 4K TV, but the performance will be limited to just 30 frames per second (30Hz).



Q: Is there anything else I need to know about PS4 Pro support on my 4K TV?
Given that 4K display standards and HDR features are still cutting edge, we recommend that you carefully consult your 4K TV’s manual and other reference materials to fully understand its capabilities.

Q: Will PS4 Pro support PlayStation VR?
PS4 Pro will fully support PlayStation VR just like the standard PS4. It’s important to note that PlayStation VR’s integrated display tops out at 1920 x 1080; it does not support 4K output. Also, the PS VR headset does not support HDR features.

That said, PS4 Pro’s upgraded processing power will give VR developers the ability to enhance their experiences with higher quality graphics, smoother or more stable framerates, and visual improvements in supported games. Developers can also choose to add PS4 Pro features to PS VR games post launch via a downloadable update.

Q: Which PS VR games will support PS4 Pro features?
As neither PS VR nor PS4 Pro has launched at the time of publication, we’ll wait until closer to PS4 Pro’s launch to begin confirming these titles.

4K Entertainment
Q: Does PS4 Pro support Ultra 4K Blu-ray Discs?
No, PS4 Pro’s internal Blu-ray drive does not support the new Ultra 4K Blu-ray Disc format. It supports the same Blu-ray Disc specs as the standard PS4. The Blu-ray Disc Player application, however, will support high-quality upscaling of DVD and Blu-ray Disc content.

Q: What 4K entertainment options will PS4 Pro support?
4K streaming apps for Netflix and YouTube are in development. Though 4K streaming is still in its early days, other services are likely to offer 4K video content in the future as well.

Q: Will there be any 4K PlayStation Store movies or TV shows?
There are no plans for this at PS4 Pro’s launch, but the PlayStation Network team is looking into it.

Other Questions
Q: How large is PS4 Pro, physically?
PS4 Pro is slightly larger than the original PS4 model introduced in 2013, and will measure approximately 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length).

Q: Will PS4 Pro owners have a performance advantage in online games when competing against standard PS4 players?
Generally, no. Playtesting and balancing is up to each game developer, and while it’s true that PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can drive smoother or more stable frame rates in supported titles, developers have many tools and processes they can use to prevent imbalances.

Q: Will there be any changes to Remote Play or Share Play with PS4 Pro?
Yes, PS4 Pro’s increased processing power can offer significant streaming benefits if the internet bandwidth is fast enough. Remote Play users on PC, Mac, or Xperia will be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p. Share Play users on a standard PS4 or PS4 Pro will also be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p.

With both Remote Play and Share Play, PS4 Pro’s adaptive streaming technology will attempt to optimize streaming quality to make the most of available internet bandwidth. For the best experience, we recommend a 15Mbps or higher connection and using a wired Ethernet connection (not Wi-Fi) whenever possible.

Q: Will the Share button capture higher quality game content with PS4 Pro games?
When playing a game with PS4 Pro features, using DUALSHOCK 4’s Share button will generate higher resolution gameplay clips and screenshots compared to the standard PS4. Specifics will vary by game, but some games will support full 1080p video capture, and screenshots at up to 3840 x 2160 (4K) pixels.

Q: Will I be able to Broadcast my gameplay at higher settings?
Yes. At launch, you will be able to broadcast a YouTube stream at as high as 1080p and 60 frames per second.

Q: Are Sony’s new 4K TVs a good fit for PS4 Pro?
While we won’t provide a specific recommendation for PS4 Pro at this time, Sony has a long history of designing TVs with advanced technology, and that reputation has extended to the 4K TV realm.

Q: What size 4K TV should I get?
We can’t give an official recommendation on TV size due to variables in room size, seating distance, and media types. 4K games and movies can feature up to four times the total resolution of a 1080p signal, so to take full advantage of 4K’s greatly increased fidelity, you’ll want a 4K TV that’s big enough to show it off comfortably.

Unofficially, the staff of PlayStation.Blog has observed good results in average living rooms with 4K TVs sized 60’’ and up. If you’re in the market for a new 4K TV for PS4 Pro, we strongly recommend selecting a model with HDR10 compatibility, which will enable increased image vividness and contrast in HDR10-enabled games and movies.

Q: If I’m using PS4 Pro on a 4K TV, and I’m playing a PS4 game without PS4 Pro features. Will it still output in 4K?
Yes, older PS4 games without dedicated PS4 Pro features will output at 4K when played on PS4 Pro and a supported 4K TV using a Premium HDMI cable. You will not, however, see any visual benefits without support for PS4 Pro features.
همیشه کلی بحث درمورد خوب بودن یا بد بودن هر چیزی به وجود میاد! ولی واقعیت اینه که با توجه به این که اکثر کاربرا تلوزیون 4K ندارن و 1080p بازی می کنن این کنسول می تونه با قیمت 400 دلاری اکثر بازی هارو 1080p و 60 فریم اجرا کنه که واقعا عالی هست! دیگه خیلی نباید به تاریخ گذشته بودن یا نبودنش کاری داشته باشیم!
موافقم.یه نمونه تو این مایه ها بگم مثلا خود من 4 سال پیش لپ تاپی رو خریدم که بلوری پلیر داشت ولی تا الان هنوز یکبار به این ویژگی نیاز پیدا نکردم! شاید بیش از 90% گیمرا در حال حاضر TV 1080 داشته باشن و بحث پخش کردن فیلمای بلوری 4K و بازیها با این کیفیت ویژه اون 10% باقی مونده هست که از سر دلخوشی تو نت دارن میزنن تو سرو کله هم.
 

Donger

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سونی اینجا بیشتر سوالات عمومی که کاربرا ممکنه درباره Pro و تفاوتش با PS4 معمولی تو ذهنشون باشه رو پاسخ داده.متن کاملشو توی اسپیلر میزارم کسی خواست مطالعه کنه:

Q: What is PS4 Pro?
PS4 Pro is a high-end version of PS4 that is capable of outputting 4K graphics, HDR support, smoother and more stable framerates, and 4K video streaming. Upon its launch, PS4 Pro will make supported PS4 games look better and run more smoothly, while giving developers an upgraded toolset to create even richer, more detailed game worlds. How these powerful new tools are used is up to individual developers and the experience they are creating. You may have seen some of these examples during PlayStation Meeting 2016.

It’s important to note that PS4 Pro is not another generation of console. It won’t make your current PS4 games obsolete, and it won’t split the PS4 player base. PS4 Pro is very much a part of the PS4 family.



Q: When will PS4 Pro be available, where, and for how much?
PS4 Pro will launch in the US and Canada on November 10 for a suggested retail price of $399.99 USD ($499.99 CAD).

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son First Light, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

Q: Will all PS4 games be compatible with PS4 Pro?
Yes, all existing PS4 games are fully compatible with PS4 Pro. Developers are able to add PS4 Pro enhancements to previously released PS4 games via a downloadable update if they choose to.

Q: Will I need to pay to update my existing PS4 game with new PS4 Pro features?

A: While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time. Software updates enabling PS4 Pro features on any existing first-party title (such as inFamous First Light or Uncharted 4) will be free.



Q: Will SIE continue to sell and support the standard PS4?
Yes. PS4 Pro is an evolution of the PS4 generation platform, which will continue to include the standard PS4 system. PS4 Pro was designed for gamers who want to be at the forefront of gaming innovation. Whether you decide to purchase the new system or continue playing on the standard PS4 system, you’ll enjoy the same games that make PlayStation the best place to play.

Q: Will PS4 Pro require a 4K TV?
No. PS4 Pro can display much higher resolutions than the standard PS4 when using a 4K TV. But if you own an HDTV (720p, 1080i, 1080p), PS4 Pro can still improve your gaming experience.

Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.



Additionally, PS4 games that render below native 1080p (maximum quality for HD TVs) on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV.

See below for a chart detailing how PS4 Pro will display based on different TV types.


4K content 2K or less than 1080p content
2K TV Optimized to 1080p If less than 1080p,
upscale to 1080p
4K TV If 4K (2160p), display as is Upscale to 4K (2160p)
4K/HDR TV If 4K (2160p), display as is
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR Upscale to 4K (2160p)
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR
Q: What resolutions does PS4 Pro support?
On 4K TVs, games are capable of running at up to 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels, also known as “2160p”) resolution. On HDTVs, games will run at 1080p.

Q: Will PS4 Pro be compatible with my existing PS4 downloaded games, saved data, and PlayStation Network Friend lists?
Yes. PS4 Pro exists in the same digital ecosystem as the standard PS4 in all regards; two PS4 console systems, one PlayStation Network, one PS4 community. This means you can start playing a game on your PS4 Pro, upload the saved data to online storage using PS Plus (sold separately), and pick up your progress on a standard PS4 in another room. It also means that all content and saved data that you already own on PS4 are fully compatible with PS4 Pro on day one.



Q: What if I already own a standard PS4? Is there an easy way to transfer my games, saved data, and Share captured content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro?
Yes. You will be able to copy your games, saved data, captured videos and screenshots, system settings, and other content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro using a standard Ethernet cable. This process will also work from standard PS4 to standard PS4, PS4 Pro to standard PS4, and PS4 Pro to PS4 Pro provided that both units have system software update 4.00 or higher installed, and the same PSN account is signed into both systems.

Alternatively, you can log-into PSN with your PS4 Pro, access your games and content library, and re-download your previously purchased games and content. Of course, your saved data in online storage will transfer as well.

Q: Will the PS4 Pro system introduce any improvements to DUALSHOCK 4?
The latest version of DUALSHOCK 4 will be included with PS4 Pro, as well as the new slimmer standard PS4. But it does not introduce any significant new functionality. The new DUALSHOCK 4 allows the light from the light bar to emit on the touch pad, making a new luminous line that illuminates in the same color as that of the light bar. It also supports USB communication in addition to Bluetooth communication. Existing DUALSHOCK 4 controllers going back to the launch of PS4 are fully supported on PS4 Pro; the updated DUALSHOCK 4 will, in turn, be fully supported by every PS4 model.



PS4 Pro: Technical Specifications
Q: How does PS4 Pro compare to the standard PS4?
PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than the standard PS4 model. PS4 Pro’s advanced graphics processor unit incorporates many features from AMD’s latest “Polaris” architecture, as well as some fully custom hardware innovations, and is considerably more powerful than the GPU included in the standard PS4.

All in all, this increase in processing power enables developers to tap into far more demanding visual features for PS4 Pro owners, including smoother or more stable framerates, support for 4K rendering, advanced graphics features, and more.

Q: What video output settings does PS4 Pro support?
At launch, PS4 Pro supports all of the HD video output settings found on the standard PS4. Notably, PS4 Pro introduces 4K output, with settings for both 2160p YUV420 and 2160p RGB (recommended if your TV supports it) at up to 60 frames per second when using a supported 4K TV and Premium HDMI (aka HDMI 2.0) cable.



Q: Does PS4 Pro support High Dynamic Range (HDR)?
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.

Q: What is HDR?
High Dynamic Range, or HDR, is an emerging display standard that allows for massively increased color depth and greater contrast compared to Standard Dynamic Range, the decades-old specification currently employed by traditional HDTVs. In general, HDR-enabled content played on an HDR-compatible TV produces a noticeably fuller, richer image, that’s closer to what the eye naturally sees. That means much deeper black levels that retain finer details; brighter, more dazzling highlights; and a much wider color spectrum than is possible on older HDTV technology.

It’s actually impossible to demonstrate the true benefits of HDR technology here because you need an HDR-enabled screen and content to experience it. You can, however, watch this video from Sony that shows some simulated before-and-after scenes.

Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.



Q: Does PS4 Pro require any specialized equipment?
Only if you want to experience 4K and HDR. Otherwise, no. Like the standard PS4, PS4 Pro fully supports existing HD TVs (720p / 1080i / 1080p). PS4 Pro can also output a 4K signal on supported 4K TVs when using a Premium HDMI cable (one will be included with PS4 Pro). To enjoy HDR features, you’ll need an HDTV that’s compatible with the HDR10 format, and HDR10-enabled games or content.

Q: Outside of higher gaming performance, 4K TV features, and support for 4K video streaming, are there any other benefits to PS4 Pro?
Yes. PS4 Pro will come standard with a 1TB HDD, faster Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac), and a third USB 3.1 Gen.1 port on the rear of the unit. PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can also benefit PlayStation VR games, enhance streaming features such as Share Play and Remote Play, and enable higher resolution output for media captured using the Share button.

In most other ways, PS4 Pro will be very similar to the standard PS4. This includes the user interface and functionality.

Q: Why do I need a Premium HDMI cable for using PS4 Pro on my 4K TV?
For maximum quality, you’ll need a PS4 Pro system, a 4K TV with a Premium HDMI input port (often marked in blue), and a Premium HDMI cable. A Premium HDMI cable is included with PS4 Pro, but those who need to purchase a longer cable should remember to get one that meets the Premium HDMI spec.

The newer Premium HDMI format can display a 4K signal at up to 60 frames per second (60Hz). Older High Speed HDMI cables (aka HDMI 1.4) can technically display a 4K signal on a 4K TV, but the performance will be limited to just 30 frames per second (30Hz).



Q: Is there anything else I need to know about PS4 Pro support on my 4K TV?
Given that 4K display standards and HDR features are still cutting edge, we recommend that you carefully consult your 4K TV’s manual and other reference materials to fully understand its capabilities.

Q: Will PS4 Pro support PlayStation VR?
PS4 Pro will fully support PlayStation VR just like the standard PS4. It’s important to note that PlayStation VR’s integrated display tops out at 1920 x 1080; it does not support 4K output. Also, the PS VR headset does not support HDR features.

That said, PS4 Pro’s upgraded processing power will give VR developers the ability to enhance their experiences with higher quality graphics, smoother or more stable framerates, and visual improvements in supported games. Developers can also choose to add PS4 Pro features to PS VR games post launch via a downloadable update.

Q: Which PS VR games will support PS4 Pro features?
As neither PS VR nor PS4 Pro has launched at the time of publication, we’ll wait until closer to PS4 Pro’s launch to begin confirming these titles.

4K Entertainment
Q: Does PS4 Pro support Ultra 4K Blu-ray Discs?
No, PS4 Pro’s internal Blu-ray drive does not support the new Ultra 4K Blu-ray Disc format. It supports the same Blu-ray Disc specs as the standard PS4. The Blu-ray Disc Player application, however, will support high-quality upscaling of DVD and Blu-ray Disc content.

Q: What 4K entertainment options will PS4 Pro support?
4K streaming apps for Netflix and YouTube are in development. Though 4K streaming is still in its early days, other services are likely to offer 4K video content in the future as well.

Q: Will there be any 4K PlayStation Store movies or TV shows?
There are no plans for this at PS4 Pro’s launch, but the PlayStation Network team is looking into it.

Other Questions
Q: How large is PS4 Pro, physically?
PS4 Pro is slightly larger than the original PS4 model introduced in 2013, and will measure approximately 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length).

Q: Will PS4 Pro owners have a performance advantage in online games when competing against standard PS4 players?
Generally, no. Playtesting and balancing is up to each game developer, and while it’s true that PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can drive smoother or more stable frame rates in supported titles, developers have many tools and processes they can use to prevent imbalances.

Q: Will there be any changes to Remote Play or Share Play with PS4 Pro?
Yes, PS4 Pro’s increased processing power can offer significant streaming benefits if the internet bandwidth is fast enough. Remote Play users on PC, Mac, or Xperia will be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p. Share Play users on a standard PS4 or PS4 Pro will also be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p.

With both Remote Play and Share Play, PS4 Pro’s adaptive streaming technology will attempt to optimize streaming quality to make the most of available internet bandwidth. For the best experience, we recommend a 15Mbps or higher connection and using a wired Ethernet connection (not Wi-Fi) whenever possible.

Q: Will the Share button capture higher quality game content with PS4 Pro games?
When playing a game with PS4 Pro features, using DUALSHOCK 4’s Share button will generate higher resolution gameplay clips and screenshots compared to the standard PS4. Specifics will vary by game, but some games will support full 1080p video capture, and screenshots at up to 3840 x 2160 (4K) pixels.

Q: Will I be able to Broadcast my gameplay at higher settings?
Yes. At launch, you will be able to broadcast a YouTube stream at as high as 1080p and 60 frames per second.

Q: Are Sony’s new 4K TVs a good fit for PS4 Pro?
While we won’t provide a specific recommendation for PS4 Pro at this time, Sony has a long history of designing TVs with advanced technology, and that reputation has extended to the 4K TV realm.

Q: What size 4K TV should I get?
We can’t give an official recommendation on TV size due to variables in room size, seating distance, and media types. 4K games and movies can feature up to four times the total resolution of a 1080p signal, so to take full advantage of 4K’s greatly increased fidelity, you’ll want a 4K TV that’s big enough to show it off comfortably.

Unofficially, the staff of PlayStation.Blog has observed good results in average living rooms with 4K TVs sized 60’’ and up. If you’re in the market for a new 4K TV for PS4 Pro, we strongly recommend selecting a model with HDR10 compatibility, which will enable increased image vividness and contrast in HDR10-enabled games and movies.

Q: If I’m using PS4 Pro on a 4K TV, and I’m playing a PS4 game without PS4 Pro features. Will it still output in 4K?
Yes, older PS4 games without dedicated PS4 Pro features will output at 4K when played on PS4 Pro and a supported 4K TV using a Premium HDMI cable. You will not, however, see any visual benefits without support for PS4 Pro features.

موافقم.یه نمونه تو این مایه ها بگم مثلا خود من 4 سال پیش لپ تاپی رو خریدم که بلوری پلیر داشت ولی تا الان هنوز یکبار به این ویژگی نیاز پیدا نکردم! شاید بیش از 90% گیمرا در حال حاضر TV 1080 داشته باشن و بحث پخش کردن فیلمای بلوری 4K و بازیها با این کیفیت ویژه اون 10% باقی مونده هست که از سر دلخوشی تو نت دارن میزنن تو سرو کله هم.

باعث و بانی این دلخوشی اون کمپانی ای هست که می دونه کنسولش در حد و اندازه 4k نیست اما از اول تا آخر کنفرانسش و تریلر های بازی هاش 4k 4k می کنه ;)

سونی به وضوح Pro رو کنسول 4K Gaming معرفی کرد، یا الان باید قبول کنید دروغ گفته یا بعد از آنالیر بازی ها به این نتیجه کی رسید که همش Upscale اه و سونی دروغ گفته :)
 
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باعث و بانی این دلخوشی اون کمپانی ای هست که می دونه کنسولش در حد و اندازه 4k نیست اما از اول تا آخر کنفرانسش و تریلر های بازی هاش 4k 4k می کنه ;)

سونی به وضوح Pro رو کنسول 4K Gaming معرفی کرد، یا الان باید قبول کنید دروغ گفته یا بعد از آنالیر بازی ها به این نتیجه کی رسید که همش Upscale اه و سونی دروغ گفته :)
سونی جایی گفته pro ،neo یا هرچیزی، بازی‌هارو نیتیو 4K اجرا می‌کنه؟ واقعا می‌خوام بدونم. چون تریلرهایی که من دیدم، زیرش نوشته بود که تصاویر upscale شده‌اند.
 

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سونی جایی گفته pro ،neo یا هرچیزی، بازی‌هارو نیتیو 4K اجرا می‌کنه؟ واقعا می‌خوام بدونم. چون تریلرهایی که من دیدم، زیرش نوشته بود که تصاویر upscale شده‌اند.

شما کنفرانس رو دیدی؟
چون بنده در طول کنفرانس در نمایش عناوینی مثل COD,Horizon,ME,... اثری از واژه UPSCALE ندیدم!!!
در اکثر تریلر ها هم می دیدم سونی اول همش می زنه رزولوشن Y0utube رو بکنید 4k!!!!
 

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دوستان توجه نمیکنند که اگه بخوان از امکانات کامل PS4 PRO بهره ببرند حداقل چند هزار دلاری برای 4K TV و VR نیاز دارن پس عملا اینکه میگن کنسول خرجش کمتره مال گذشتس و این حرف دیگه معنایی نداره.

واقعا هنوز نفهمیدم چرا سونی اصرار داره و میخواد قیمت کنسولاش را روی 400 دلار نگه داره اخه تا کی سال 2020 همون 400 دلار؟الان بحثی که در مورد PRO مطرحه اینکه هنوز که هنوزه CPU کنسول به قول معروف outdated هست.
با این وضع سال ها پیشرفت گرافیک بازیها را عقب نگه میداره چون هرچقدر پول بدی آش میخوری؟هرچقدر هم AMD بتونه هزینه ساخت قطعات را کاهش بده هرسال بازم مگه چی میشه با 400 دلار ساخت؟
عملا کل دنیا دارن بالای 700-600 دلار برای یه گوشی های بی خودی میدن و به نظرم برای سال 2016 یه قیمت عادیه...تازه کسی که 60 دلار برای هر بازی و هزینه PLUS سالیانه میده چهارصد دلار بیشتر برای چندین سال استفاده از کنسول مهم نیست اصلا براش.
.یه کنسول 800 دلاری واقعا میتونه حداقل یه جهش بزرگی تو گرافیک بازی ها داشته باشه با این وضع خیر بازی ها واقع گرایانه را بزنید.
 

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شما کنفرانس رو دیدی؟
چون بنده در طول کنفرانس در نمایش عناوینی مثل COD,Horizon,ME,... اثری از واژه UPSCALE ندیدم!!!
در اکثر تریلر ها هم می دیدم سونی اول همش می زنه رزولوشن Y0utube رو بکنید 4k!!!!
نه من کنفرانس رو ندیدم. ولی تریلر PS4 Pro Sizzle رو دیدم که توش بازی‌های زیادی رو نشون می‌ده و چندبار هم می‌نویسه که تصاویر Upscale شده هستند. نمیدونم این تریلر رو تو کنفرانس نشون دادند یا نه.
درکل من قصدم دفاع از سونی نیست و فقط سوال پرسیدم. چون کاملا واضحه که Pro بازی‌های AAA رو نمی‌تونه Native 4K اجرا کنه و اگه سونی جور دیگه‌ای تبلیغ کرده به برند خودش ضربه می‌زنه.
 

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باعث و بانی این دلخوشی اون کمپانی ای هست که می دونه کنسولش در حد و اندازه 4k نیست اما از اول تا آخر کنفرانسش و تریلر های بازی هاش 4k 4k می کنه ;)

سونی به وضوح Pro رو کنسول 4K Gaming معرفی کرد، یا الان باید قبول کنید دروغ گفته یا بعد از آنالیر بازی ها به این نتیجه کی رسید که همش Upscale اه و سونی دروغ گفته :)
سوني حرفي از native 4k نزد فقط گفت 4k كه بعد از كنفرانس هم مارك سرني اشاره كرد از تكنيك checkboard براي uprender كردن بازي استفاده ميكنه, شما اگه ميخواي اطلاعات بدي كامل و بدون تصرف بده ، :D
رزوليشن بازي ها 4k نيتيو نيست اما خيلي نزديكه به طوري كه به قول خودشون با چشم قابل تشخيص نيست حالا شما انتظار داري سوني بياد كنسول رو چطور معرفي كنه؟ بگه كنسول مثلا 3k هست :D

PS4 Pro's 4K promise isn't misleading, says Sony, even though 'majority' of games will be upscaled - VideoGamer.com

اندرو هوس هم بعد از كنفرانس اين بيانيه رو داد كه گفته بازي ها از تكنيك جديد upscale استفاده ميكنن و 4k native نيستن ( به جز چند بازي محدود) ولي كيفيتي كه ميدن خيلي نزديكه 4k هست حالا شما باز بگو دروغه
 

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سوني حرفي از native 4k نزد فقط گفت 4k كه بعد از كنفرانس هم مارك سرني اشاره كرد از تكنيك checkboard براي uprender كردن بازي استفاده ميكنه, شما اگه ميخواي اطلاعات بدي كامل و بدون تصرف بده ، :D
رزوليشن بازي ها 4k نيتيو نيست اما خيلي نزديكه به طوري كه به قول خودشون با چشم قابل تشخيص نيست حالا شما انتظار داري سوني بياد كنسول رو چطور معرفي كنه؟ بگه كنسول مثلا 3k هست :D

PS4 Pro's 4K promise isn't misleading, says Sony, even though 'majority' of games will be upscaled - VideoGamer.com

اندرو هوس هم بعد از كنفرانس اين بيانيه رو داد كه گفته بازي ها از تكنيك جديد upscale استفاده ميكنن و 4k native نيستن ( به جز چند بازي محدود) ولي كيفيتي كه ميدن خيلي نزديكه 4k هست حالا شما باز بگو دروغه
دروغه. این که می گن کیفیتش نزدیک 4K هست کاملا دروغه. هر تکنیکی شما استفاده کنی نمی تونی جزئیاتی که توی رزولوشن پایینتر وجود نداره رو بوجود بیاری، به جز یه تکنیک: رندر تو رزولوشن بالاتر. اینو ببین:Comparison gallery of image scaling algorithms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia یه سری از الگوریتم ها تازه کلی پردازش نیاز دارن که عملا نمی شه واسه فیلم و ویدیو به صورت ریل تایم استفاده کرد ازشون و خیلی بهتر از تکنیک های ریل تایمی که توی TV و PS4 به کار می ره هستن. بازم به گرد پای نیتیو نمی رسن. در بهترین حالت یه سری هوش مصنوعی و شبکه نورونی ساختن که واسه فقط یه سری از عکس ها (مثلا عکس های انیمه ای) جواب می ده که اون کارش تا حدودی نزدیک به نیتیو می شه:
waifu2x
بازم واسه استفاده ریل تایم قابل استفاده نیست و واسه همه چی هم جواب نمی ده. ویرایش: ساپورت عکس معمولی هم اضافه کرده انگار.
واسه فیلم هم یه PDFـی واسه مقایسه یافتم به این شرح:
https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01073920/document
نمودارشو اگه نگار کنی یه افت کیفیت خیلی تابلویی بعد از 4K نیتیو مشاهده می شه.
 
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دروغه. این که می گن کیفیتش نزدیک 4K هست کاملا دروغه. هر تکنیکی شما استفاده کنی نمی تونی جزئیاتی که توی رزولوشن پایینتر وجود نداره رو بوجود بیاری، به جز یه تکنیک: رندر تو رزولوشن بالاتر. اینو ببین:Comparison gallery of image scaling algorithms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia یه سری از الگوریتم ها تازه کلی پردازش نیاز دارن که عملا نمی شه واسه فیلم و ویدیو به صورت ریل تایم استفاده کرد ازشون و خیلی بهتر از تکنیک های ریل تایمی که توی TV و PS4 به کار می ره هستن. بازم به گرد پای نیتیو نمی رسن. در بهترین حالت یه سری هوش مصنوعی و شبکه نورونی ساختن که واسه فقط یه سری از عکس ها (مثلا عکس های انیمه ای) جواب می ده که اون کارش تا حدودی نزدیک به نیتیو می شه:
waifu2x
بازم واسه استفاده ریل تایم قابل استفاده نیست و واسه همه چی هم جواب نمی ده. ویرایش: ساپورت عکس معمولی هم اضافه کرده انگار.
واسه فیلم هم یه PDFـی واسه مقایسه یافتم به این شرح:
https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01073920/document
نمودارشو اگه نگار کنی یه افت کیفیت خیلی تابلویی بعد از 4K نیتیو مشاهده می شه.
حالا كساني كه ديدن از نزديك نظرشون با شما متفاوته، حالا صبر ميكنيم تا اين مساله بيشتر روشن شه
 

Donger

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Apr 14, 2015
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سوني حرفي از native 4k نزد فقط گفت 4k كه بعد از كنفرانس هم مارك سرني اشاره كرد از تكنيك checkboard براي uprender كردن بازي استفاده ميكنه, شما اگه ميخواي اطلاعات بدي كامل و بدون تصرف بده ، :D
رزوليشن بازي ها 4k نيتيو نيست اما خيلي نزديكه به طوري كه به قول خودشون با چشم قابل تشخيص نيست حالا شما انتظار داري سوني بياد كنسول رو چطور معرفي كنه؟ بگه كنسول مثلا 3k هست :D

PS4 Pro's 4K promise isn't misleading, says Sony, even though 'majority' of games will be upscaled - VideoGamer.com

اندرو هوس هم بعد از كنفرانس اين بيانيه رو داد كه گفته بازي ها از تكنيك جديد upscale استفاده ميكنن و 4k native نيستن ( به جز چند بازي محدود) ولي كيفيتي كه ميدن خيلي نزديكه 4k هست حالا شما باز بگو دروغه

وقتی گفته می شه 4k یعتی Native 4k، بهتره بی خیال بازی با کلمات بشید :)
به عبارتی کنفرانس سونی عوام فریبی بود و اطلاعات نصفه نیمه درست رو بعد از کنفرانس اعلام کردن
سونی می گفت ps3 بازی اه 4 بعدی اجرا می کنه، می گفت 2 تا hdmi داره، توان پردازشی که اعلام کرده بود اون زمان از ps4 هم بالاتر بود و ...، همش درست بود نه؟
سونی بیاد توی کنفرانس زمان معرفی عین آدم بگه این کنسول بازی ها رو در رزولوشنی پایینتر اجرا می کنه و upscale می کنه به 4k و تمام
نه این که کل کنفراس رو ببنده به 4k بعد از کنفرانس شروع کنه نم نم اطلاعات درست دادن
 

jhoobin

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Jul 21, 2016
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وقتی گفته می شه 4k یعتی Native 4k، بهتره بی خیال بازی با کلمات بشید :)
به عبارتی کنفرانس سونی عوام فریبی بود و اطلاعات نصفه نیمه درست رو بعد از کنفرانس اعلام کردن
سونی می گفت ps3 بازی اه 4 بعدی اجرا می کنه، می گفت 2 تا hdmi داره، توان پردازشی که اعلام کرده بود اون زمان از ps4 هم بالاتر بود و ...، همش درست بود نه؟
سونی بیاد توی کنفرانس زمان معرفی عین آدم بگه این کنسول بازی ها رو در رزولوشنی پایینتر اجرا می کنه و upscale می کنه به 4k و تمام
نه این که کل کنفراس رو ببنده به 4k بعد از کنفرانس شروع کنه نم نم دستش رو رو کردن
این همه ادم استقبال کردن بد شما مخالفت میکنی سونی مگه دیوانه بیاد دروغ بگه الان یه سری از دوستان گفتن این نسل دیگه نسل قبل نیست طرفدارا پوس میکنن کمپانی ها رو برای کیفیت:|
 

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